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jyng1
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by jyng1 » Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:25 am
puerile_polyp wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:03 pm
The fact is that a significant number of Ukrainians do see themselves as Russian and have been fighting for years to separate Donbas. They say that the Ukrainians in Kyiv have been oppressing them and committing war crimes.
Who says and when did they say it? You know the only evidence of a coup is Russian FSB Colonel Igor Strelkov Girkin committing a coup in Crimea and then in the Donbas.
Where's the evidence of Ukrainians fighting for years prior to the Russian coups in 2014 to separate the Luhansk and Donetsk?
Even the supposed war crimes by the Azov is supported by somewhat dubious evidence compared to the well documented war crimes by Russia's Task Force Rusich.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... -prisoners
The report “War crimes of the armed forces and security forces of Ukraine: torture and inhumane treatment. Second report”. put out by the Foundation for the Study of Democracy is interesting. The Foundation for the Study of Democracy is led by Maksim Grigoriev. He is the Chairman of the Coordinating Council for Public Control over Voting at the Civic Chamber of the Russian Federation.
https://neweuropeans.net/article/3638/f ... propaganda
It's quite a convincing report but I'm wondering if the stories regarding the war crimes of Azov carry about as much credibility as the "Crucified Boy" of Sloviansk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucified_boy
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jyng1
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by jyng1 » Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:56 am
I bet there's already a thread on Reddit or Twitter somewhere denying it's young Iranians rebelling against their Government and instead claiming it's a proxy war between Iran and the US...
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Senseye
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by Senseye » Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:24 pm
jyng1 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:56 am
I bet there's already a thread on Reddit or Twitter somewhere denying it's young Iranians rebelling against their Government and instead claiming it's a proxy war between Iran and the US...
Probably. The Iranian government itself is using the same go to. It seem inept leaders always blame the foreign boogieman (generally the US or the more generic "west") for their problems in order to distract from their own corrupt and inept authoritarian management.
Anything Biden says should be ignored. His senile old brain probably only functions 1 IQ point higher than Trump's. That's a low bar to clear.
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puerile_polyp
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by puerile_polyp » Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:37 pm
Senseye wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:24 pm
Anything Biden says should be ignored. His senile old brain probably only functions 1 IQ point higher than Trump's. That's a low bar to clear.
Well he's the commander in chief.
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jyng1
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by jyng1 » Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:08 am
Catoptric wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:37 am
People in Russia still believe that Putin is the best thing they've had going for them, which could only be Stockholm Syndrome or trauma bonding. The fact that Putin attempted to kill Navalny and then proceeded to criminalize the political party should very clearly suggest that they are not living in a democracy (as Clinton warned Boris Yeltsin.)
He was for 20 years. Until he tried to take control of Ukraines 1.2 trillion cubic metres of proven gas reserves in the Donbas and its whole coastline to the Azov and Black Seas.
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HighlyIrregular II
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by HighlyIrregular II » Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:52 pm
CNN: Poland and NATO say the missile that killed 2 was likely fired by Ukraine defending against Russia
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jyng1
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by jyng1 » Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:10 pm
HighlyIrregular II wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:52 pm
CNN: Poland and NATO say the missile that killed 2 was likely fired by Ukraine defending against Russia
It was tracked by AWACS. Ukraine Weapons Tracker had a tweet out within hours saying the motor was the Ukrainian version.
"Russia makes complaint to UN about Ukraine's reckless use of missiles used to defend themselves from Russian missiles".
