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Post by Catoptric » Mon Apr 24, 2023 6:37 pm

The Author of Le Morte d'Arthur, Thomas Mallory, was very likely a petty thief and a rapist?

This is worth reading because it highlights many details, including the ambushing of the Duke of Buckingham.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malory

Book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Morte_d%27Arthur


"Much more detail was added to Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel's biography by Edward Hicks in 1928, revealing that this Thomas Malory had been imprisoned as a thief, bandit, kidnapper, attempted murderer, and rapist; which hardly seemed in keeping with the high chivalric standards of his book."


His father served as a Justice of the Peace. . .


Shorter summary of his crimes (though I recommend reading Wikipedia) :
https://literature.fandom.com/wiki/Thom ... %20offense.
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Sir Thomas Malory is the name given to an English writer, the author of the fifteenth century book of Arthurian legend Le Morte d'Arthur.

There were at least six different men named Thomas Malory alive at the time that Le Morte d'Arthur was written, The only clues as to who the author was are contained in the text of Le Morte d'Arthur itself, in sentences such as "For this was written by a knight prisoner Thomas Malleore". The author seems to have been familiar with the Yorkshire dialect of English and obviously knew French, from which most of the Arthurian tales in the book were translated. His knowledge of French means that the author must have come from a family that was wealthy enough to pay for an education.

Most modern scholars believe that the author was Sir Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel in Warwickshire, known to have been a violent criminal, thief, kidnapper and rapist who behaved very differently from the chivalrous knights described in his tales.

Sir Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel

Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel, Warwickshire was born some time between 1393 and 1416 and grew up to become a professional soldier. In 1443, he was accused of attacking and kidnapping one Thomas Smyth and stealing forty pounds worth of goods from him. He was not charged with the offense. In the same year he married Elizabeth Walsh and was elected to parliament.

As a member of parliament, Malory was charged with distributing money to the poor of Warwickshire and appears to have lived respectably for a while.

In 1450, Malory was accused of being part of a gang that attacked the Duke of Buckingham. In June 1450, he broke into the home of one Hugh Smyth, robbed him and raped his wife. He attacked the same woman again in Coventry two months later. Malory and his gang went on to commit over a hundred violent crimes. He was briefly imprisoned in the castle in the Warwickshire town of Maxstoke but managed to escape, swim the moat and rejoin his gang.

Malory was put on trial for his numerous crimes on August 23, 1451 and sent to London's Marshalsea Prison. Malory would spend most of the next decade as a prisoner in the Marshalsea and Newgate prisons in London and in Colchester. He would have had plenty of time to write Le Morte d'Arthur during that decade.

In 1461 Malory was pardoned by the newly crowned King Edward IV. He died in 1470 and was buried in an elaborate tomb in Greyfriar's Chapel near London's Newgate Prison. The tomb was destroyed a few decades later during the religious reforms of King Henry VIII.

Sir Thomas Malory of Newbold Revel is known to have had one son, Robert, and one grandson, Nicholas.

Thomas Malory in fiction
A young Thomas Malory appears as a character in the Arthurian novel The Once and Future King by T.H. White. The character also appears briefly in Camelot, the Broadway musical adptation of The Once and Future King.


A lot of criminals are also sent to war where they become knighted, so the "knightly valor" akin to the bushido code, probably is propaganda to try and sanitize the true nature of those professions. His father being a Justice of the Peace is a bit like the "wild west' and its similar reputation, where corruption can often manifest.


Shakespeare's father was a bit of a thief himself, which might have allowed William to write his plays.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/201 ... ather-wool


Don Quixote was also written by Miguel Cervantes while in prison, and so did Dante (though for other reason.)

Seems the great literary traditions did not persist past the rennaisance.

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Within 1 year this place would go up in flames with 50 killed, and 80 injured.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerland_disaster

On the day leading up to the disaster
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... -survivors

It was rebuilt and finally torn down starting in 2004-6
https://culturevannin.im/watchlisten/im ... emolition/




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The THIN BLUE LINE (Errol Morris, 1988) documentary of a night in Dallas on Nov 1976 with a stolen vehicle driven by David Harris, with a hitchiking passenger Randall Dale Adams, involving a court case where the Police Officer who was shot while pulling them over.

Part 1


Part 2


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Dale_Adams
https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h1/harris-david-ray.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Grigson
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Another Dallas Archival footage from 1961 with Walter Cronkite (supposedly.) It sounds like a promotional, though it is interesting. I've probably seen some of the areas shown in the footage, and they are grown over with trees.

Dallas at the Crossroads (1961)
https://texasarchive.org/2010_01599


The Chocolate Bayou Story
https://texasarchive.org/2011_02141


Windows in Time (1980)
https://texasarchive.org/2014_04419



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The Time Colonel Sanders Shot Another Person
https://www.thedailymeal.com/1132748/th ... her-person



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A 7th century Chinese Monarch, similar in influence as Queen Elizabeth I.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Zetian




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Prison Houdini
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prison-hou ... own-tools/
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Post by Catoptric » Sun May 07, 2023 1:56 am

Scopes Monkey Trial (1925) Rare News Footage



Regarding the teaching of evolution in schools.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_trial




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Archaeologists in the U.K. Have Turned Up 34 (engraved) Semi-Precious Stones in the Drain of an Ancient Roman Bathhouse
https://news.artnet.com/art-world/carli ... os-2249378



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Death by sawing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_sawing



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Operation Willi - about the Nazi plan to abduct King Edward VIII (who would conspire against the English government.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Willi




The Hindenburg’s Interior: Vintage Photos Reveal What Luxury Air Travel Was Like in the 1930s
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/hinden ... or-photos/



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Post by Catoptric » Wed May 24, 2023 8:18 am

THE MISFITS, 1961 (Marilyn Monroe's et als, last film)
https://www.jaysclassicmovieblog.com/po ... sfits-1961


Arthur Miller wrote the movie for Marilyn, and during production they divorced.

A similar thing happened when Fawlty Tower's was being made, John Cleese would divorce his wife who costarred.

Clark Gable also died before the film was released in 1961: "Gable suffered a heart attack two days after filming ended and died ten days later on November 16, 1960."

I considered the ending scene where Clark Gable was horse wrangling as something that contributed to his death, and this Brittanica article seems to agree that it did.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Misfits

The tow driver (and main character throughout,) actor Eli Wallach, was more well-known (to me anyway) in 'The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.'


The specifics of Arthur Miller's relation with Marilyn Monroe are pinpointed here:

Marilyn and Miller: Star-crossed Misfits
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2018/3 ... ed-misfits

Marilyn always had the impression she was never caste in suitable roles beyond her attractiveness, and when The Misfits movie was written she expected roles that weren't emphasizing those traits; and somehow during this process she also felt betrayed with how Arthur interacted with the Director John Huston who she perceived as being given a bad impression with ongoing script disagreements.

It seems that with the outcome of the marriage (which Arthur Miller was seen as being a contributor to her desire to be taken as a serious Actress) falling apart and the subsequent belief that the film had less of an impact than hoped for, that Marilyn's turn to. . . *cough* politics, had the undesirable publicity that might have pushed her over the edge.

Why Marilyn Monroe's Last Movie Was So Controversial
https://screenrant.com/marilyn-monroe-m ... -troubled/


Oddly enough, 5 years after the movie came out, Montgomery Clift was asked by his male "Nurse" (not sure. . .) if he wanted to watch The Misfits when it was being aired on TV, and he proclaims, "Absolutely not!" and goes to his room, where he is sleeping seperately. In the wikipedia account he is lying in bed, and in this article he is said to have died in the bath?

"He died in the early hours of 23 July 1966. His final words were to his companion and nurse Lorenzo James, who had spotted that The Misfits was on television and asked Clift if he wanted to watch it with him. “Absolutely not!”, was the reply. Clift took a bath instead, in which he had a fatal heart attack."

‘The longest suicide in Hollywood history’: who was the real Montgomery Clift?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/lon ... ery-clift/


"At 6:30 a.m., James woke up and went to wake Clift, but found the bedroom door closed and locked. Concerned and unable to break the door down, James ran down to the back garden and climbed up a ladder to enter through the second-floor bedroom window. Inside, he found Clift dead: he was undressed, lying in his bed still wearing his eyeglasses and with both fists clenched by his side. James then used the bedroom telephone to call some of Clift's personal physicians and the medical examiner's office before an ambulance arrived.[114]"- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montgomer ... k%20Times.

In the first article ( https://www.jaysclassicmovieblog.com/po ... sfits-1961 ,) it describes the movie Director (and Actor in movies like Chinatown) John Huston being repulsed by Montgomery Clift when he discovered he was fucking some dude in his castle in Ireland while the film was being made.

This article pinpoints the entire production down to John Huston's direction and proneness to gamble and be drunk on-set, contributed to a blight of issues, which may have exacerbated the issues that many of the Actors fell prey to (such as alcoholism and drug use, such as appears to be the case with Montgomery Clift, Marilyn, and perhaps even Clark Gable wasn't merely acting drunk in some of his scenes which likewise could have caused heart issues.)

https://stanforddaily.com/2018/01/18/th ... ts-review/

Being a film that focused on cowboys as the main theme probably didn't help either, and many of the story development gave a perplexed "WTF?" moment from time to time.

I also suspect the reference to "goodbye horses" in the 'Q Lazzarus' song by that name, might have been referencing the idea of wild and unbridled oddities that skirt societal norms, and reading into this idea it does seem to evoke the ending scene where Clark Gable struggles to make the horse succumb to control and then releases it, having given up his ties to the whims of his previous self (a bit like Arthur Miller incorporated as a central theme in 'Death of a Salesman,' the horses being released were symbolizing a suppression of the ego existing vicarious through some goal or objective which has ceased to conquer the zeitgeist of an ideation.)


"The meaning: In an Eastern philosophy "horses" are symbolic/representative of the 5 senses - the things that keep us tied to the physical/material plane of existence. When you can transcend the limitations of these senses and achieve a higher level of consciousness, you are leaving the "horses" behind - "flying over them." The song is about someone who was so affected by (A loss? A breakup?) they decide to give up the things that keep them tied to this world by emotion."
- https://www.psyche-hq.de/goodbye-horses ... %20emotion.


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I mostly wanted to focus on the oddity of that movie (everything involving the production and casting was very strange, and it was a footprint in history that also evokes similar productions that seemed doomed in various ways, but also gives some backstory in issues of Directors like John Huston who would collaborate in acting with Orson Welles who was known to have similar problems with alcohol, such as the previously 'unfinished' 'The Other Side of the Wind' (produced by Orson Welles over several years during the 1970's and not until 2018 released) which has a fan edit available.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Monroe

Even though Marilyn wasn't too young, the age difference kind of makes me consider that Stanley Kubrick felt compelled to direct Lolita which would be released in 1962, as it's been argued that Marilyn Monroe was a bit of an opportunist and that it belies the sense of a character like Claire Quilty to be the only "damaged goods," bourne out of circumstances and motivations that might appear outwardly innocent though betray the senses.
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Post by Catoptric » Mon May 29, 2023 7:19 am

Photos of Glorious Doucheland!

Deutsches Kriegsmarine (German Navy WW2)
https://archive.org/details/agean-commandos-1961

The main page has a lot of pdf and archival footage.
https://archive.org/details/@finis_belli

Victory of Faith (1933) Leni Riefenstahl


Triumph of the Will (Leni Riefenstahl, 1935)




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Churchill tried to suppress Nazi plot to restore Edward VIII to British throne
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... net-papers

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Re: Historical Fragments

Post by Yesterday » Tue May 30, 2023 10:44 pm

It's very possible that in the future an archeologist will excavate a garbage dump and find an grubby SD card with a photo of Aether from an angle where they look swollen with frustration from correcting the world of their mistakes. So the archeologist immediately smashes that SD card, only a few moments later to relish the discovery of a different and clean SD card. When she looks at the new SD card's contents she doesn't see a trace of revulsive imagery but a photo taken with a spirit of fun and spontaneity. The photo is of a bearded fellow with a grin of intellectual promiscuity. "I wonder what he's thinking? hm, so handsome...", will wonder the archeologist into another thought which she'll decide to keep secret. Archeologists and their secrets lol, but she'd be right because the photo of that handsome man is a photo of me.
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Post by Catoptric » Wed May 31, 2023 3:07 am

I was watching a Loyd Frank Baum documentary and got inspired to check out some of his lesser-known books.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperi ... oz/#part01

John Dough and the Cherub (1906)
https://archive.org/details/johndoughth ... 1/mode/2up

Pg 2 shows the book owner and photo (very unusual for the time, and even decades later) Louise Klots (1896-1967) New York

Daughter of Henry Durell Klots 1863 - 1914 (which made me think he died in the war, though the article below makes no mention of how, only that his son started taking over finances in 1918?)
https://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/reco ... 24-1bkckcc

He owned 14 factories connected to throwing (making fabric throws) which made 40 million dollars a year at some point.

'The Klotz Throwing Company in Lonaconing: Opening Tut’s Tomb'
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/view ... xt=tsaconf

Some of the abandoned factories look as though they could be started up today, much as they were circa 1900.
https://www.abandonedamerica.us/klotz-throwing-company

(pretty cool photos)

More:
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/klo ... ng-company

The calendar in that link shows 1957 (likely when the factory was last used.)

Located at:
20 E Railroad St, Lonaconing, MD 21539

It's so forgotten that Google street view doesn't even cross by it.
https://goo.gl/maps/c9WiXtuFiqfpxzL77?c ... 3&entry=tt


Another factory appears to have been closed in 1972 and only recently (post 2011) converted into a liveable building.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klots_Thr ... mpany_Mill

917 Gay St, Cumberland, MD 21502
https://goo.gl/maps/uQqpFPLJMHpMXzv67?c ... 3&entry=tt









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Unrelated, but similar time period (this is really cool though it seems to only work with a scroll wheel)

Tenement Museum Virtual Tour using Photogrammetry - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-ent ... nt-museum/

The location is
103 Orchard St, New York, NY 10002

https://goo.gl/maps/iSMhsWr4hY1Hh5XQ7?c ... 3&entry=tt


Historical photos of Tenement houses
https://allthatsinteresting.com/tenemen ... otos-facts




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Cero Gordo hotel in an old Wild West ghost town burned down 149 years to the day that it opened
https://www.insider.com/cerro-gordo-hot ... own-2020-6

Insurance fraud? They used the original electrical wiring, and didn't even have fire hydrants, or fire alarms ready? Would it have even been insured without modification?
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Post by Catoptric » Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:24 am

Old Soviet (or shortly after) photos
https://themindcircle.com/soviet-photos/


The pioneer camps of the USSR of the late 60’s – early 70’s
https://russiatrek.org/blog/history/the ... early-70s/

Looks a bit post-apocalyptic even then.


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The only civilian to die during Gettysburg the day prior to death had a artillary shell (10 lb Parrot shell) fall through the ceiling and down into the floor board, which apparently wasn't enough to deter them in kneading dough and going on as usual (they were baking bread for the Union army.)
https://www.gettysburgbattlefieldtours. ... wade-house

I'm having to guess the artillery shell was deliberate?

https://www.gettysburgdaily.com/mcclell ... le-damage/

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I'm trying to get a better idea about the Boxer Rebellion leading up to Emperor Puyi's conflict and eventual abdication. A large part of the issue was the instability that was created from foreign interest in an increasingly interconnected world, where the Chinese were wanting self-reliance from their influence (thus the Boxer Rebellion echoes a lot of Mao's 'Cultural Revolution,' but it also might explain why Japan was so brutal to China during the time period, because practically any foreigner was being targeted.



The Yihequan (“Righteous and Harmonious Fists”) became the etymology behind "boxers"
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Boxer- ... et-society

(pretty interesting visual similar to Vlad the Impaler and tooth extraction non-dental related)
https://www.britannica.com/event/Boxer-Rebellion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Peking_(1900)

A loyalist was involved with both the Boxer Rebellion and what became of reinstating the "Japanese Puppet" last Emperor Puyi, following riots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Xun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puyi


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I'm having similar difficulty making sense of

'Chinas First Emperor' Qin Shi Huang 259–210 BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang

To 'The Yellow Emperor' Huangdi circa 2698–2598 BC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor









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The World's 30 Creepiest Abandoned Military Bases
https://www.popularmechanics.com/techno ... the-world/
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Post by Catoptric » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:52 am

The Forgotten Drug Trips of the Nineteenth Century
Long before the hippies, a group of thinkers used substances like cocaine, hashish, and nitrous oxide to uncover the secrets of the mind.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023 ... jZtV1LieWo


6-inch stone penis was used to sharpen weapons in medieval Spain
https://www.livescience.com/archaeology ... SmartBrief



Archaeologists Just Uncovered A Massive Roman Phallic Carving In Spain — And It Might Be The Biggest Ever Found
https://allthatsinteresting.com/cordoba-roman-

The ancient Roman's were fond of the masturbatorium (I thought I just made that up, but apparently it's real; though the part about the Romans, I did make up. . . They mostly had vomitoriums.)
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/masturbatorium
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Post by Catoptric » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:20 am

Amber Ale: Brewing Beer From 45-Million-Year-Old Yeast
https://ancientfoods.wordpress.com/2011 ... old-yeast/


I think he might have closed up because very little seems to show online.

Though 10 years after that 2011 article (and the post on FB I found connected to the story was from 2016, so practically every 5 years the subject seems to come up again.)
https://www.californiasun.co/the-beer-m ... old-yeast/

A review:
I Tried It: 45 Million-Year-Old Yeast Beer
https://underthejenfluence.beer/urconte ... yeast-beer

https://untappd.com/FossilFuelsBrewing


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This is the leaf fossil that was used
https://www.eater.com/2016/8/23/1260890 ... ls-brewing


And yet, the people that had bottles from the time that they closed down (around 2017?) haven't tried to reuse the yeast in homebrew, and very little interest seems to be generated from it. I'm curious as to whether the yeast hasn't become inadvertently contaminated with wild yeast when making the beer, or if in the process of reusing the same yeast strain, it doesn't mutate from whatever strain existed in the fossil.



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In other news:


Signalman Jack: The Baboon Who Worked for the Railroad—and Never Made a Mistake
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/559 ... uth-africa

It seems he didn't have any problem stepping in feces.


Historical mugshots
https://allthatsinteresting.com/vintage-


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A cattle Rancher invited Native Americans onto his ranch to film them hunting a buffalo in 1916.

Old Texas (Colonel Charles Goodnight, 1916)
https://texasarchive.org/2010_01598

I tried to download it but it's difficult.

The preservation of the bison/buffalo is directly linked to him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Goodnight


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A somewhat famous spiral staircase (built by François-Jean Rochas 1843–1894) has a more down-to-earth explanation than the story about it within the Catholic church which alluded to divine intervention, such as wood that couldn't be sourced to any known trees, which might be because they were all cut down eventually. . . Especially after 100 years of the building being there.

The craftsman showed up from France and even had a report on his death by murder in 1894 along with the $150 he was paid some decade prior to his death, so it wasn't some kind of Pagan Saint that came down to show off his mad carpentry skills. Even the railings weren't added at the time of completion, and the staircase had metal reinforced, which couldn't remove the slight springiness from the support structure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loretto_Chapel

When my brother was becoming proselytized/indoctrinated he watched a movie called The Staircase, which I could have sworn looked like it was made in the 1970s, though came out in late 1990s for TV.

'The Staircase' (1998)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152588/

The problem is you will get a bunch of people that don't bother researching it that think it's good evidence for their belief, and the problem especially is that such movies and information KNOWINGLY lie to persuade people. The only sensible reaction to realizing how prolific such deception is would be to rage.

The absence of nails or glue is a benefit to long-term longevity, since the wood contracts and cools with heat, which anyone in Europe with enough experience with old buildings will notice is best, which is precisely what you might expect with skills passed down from pre-industrial trade professions. The lack of support structure which they view as a marvel, is really just lack of safety standards (hence why the Church now operates as a museum which restricts access to the staircase, since it evidently has a very earthly origin.




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September 1985 Titanic was found by a team led by US Navy officer Robert Ballard.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -1985.html



Because of the need for secrecy, Ballard said how he suggested that the team 'tell the world' that they were looking for the Titanic.

USS Thresher (SSN-593) was the lead ship of her class of nuclear-powered attack submarines.

She was lost in 1963 during deep-sea diving tests after a high-pressure pipe burst, causing the vessel to lose power and implode as it sank.

The USS Scorpion disappeared in 1968 amid speculation that it was sunk by Soviet forces.


The submersible Alvin was used in 1985 (and was originally built in 1967)
https://www.whoi.edu/what-we-do/explore ... -of-alvin/



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The Book of Revelation was used to justify invasions



Though I'm familiar with the Author, I'll have to listen to this video since I'm only finding other books she's written on Archive (and the 'Revelations' book is unavailable,) though I will be watching this video and update the below information as it seems suitable.)


So far it's become obvious to me I mistook Paul of Tarsus as the author of Revelations, but it is actually John of Patmos (who is mistakenly attributed as being a Disciple of Jesus.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Patmos

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Earlier writing on various ideas:
Christianity derives from influences in Egyptian history when their civilization literally "collapsed," as mentioned in the book, '1177 B.C.: When Civilization Collapsed' by Eric Cline (or Youtube video



) which not until the Bible book of Acts mentions Paul of Tarsus spreading the Gospel to the gentiles does any attribution of transition into an eschatology get presented, which may have only been a reference to Roman rule over Jerusalem. Eric Cline mentions in the video how the city of Tel Megiddo (a city synonymous with conflicts from ancient times) is where the name Armageddon came to exist. The term Apocalypse is more of a Gnostic origin, which implies "unveiling," suggesting a literary device. Since the ancient world perceived "supernatural" visions as signs of the divine, likewise, it was assumed foretelling the future and the inevitability of trends of such collapses, or transition into new eras, were perceived as the hallmark of divining. Since the earliest of civilizations, the belief that people were given visions or insights into such ideas, was largely under the influence of entheogenic substances.

I mentioned in a post I made on April 23, 2022:

- 'The Apocalypse of Peter' was a book not contemporaneous to anyone living in Jesus' time (it was the 2nd century.) Nevertheless, it is apparent that his being a witness to Jesus' resurrection was significant to establish the criteria of the text as revelatory.
- The Bible is largely based on astrotheological ideas, which have a universal theme throughout all civilizations regarding collapse and renewal, denoting cycles that are inevitable as the seasons and the procession of the stars. Being able to "read the stars" was considered divinely inspired.

Whether religions were intended to solidify control over the masses and use pathos to keep them under the sway of emotion, and by default to the "inevitability" of events as they happen, rather than to utilize an internal locus of control incompatible with any government or organization which required servility. In the case of European dominance and realizing the Muslims could invade and encroach on their territories, the fear of takeover was very real and the territories of Israel were strategic to historical conflict and supremacy in the region (and hence they are essential for global hegemony to this day.)

A lot of the authorship of the Bible is rightfully criticized, since the phenomenon and controversy surrounding such groups that wrote the texts, also had their own agendas to conceal behind the writing. During the time the books were written they were prone to attacks by the Roman's and would often use coded references using symbols etched in sand or on walls. It was as if they were anarchists opposed to the government, much like the Anonymous group is today.

Much of GWB's politics were intentionally deceptive but they also echo a period when McCarthyism and Billy Graham were ascending to popular influence with anti-Communist rhetoric, and any time when an audience is already receptive to power of group hegemony, you can easily compel people the direction of a goal.

Strangely, I was going to suggest that people like George Bush (Snr and Jr?) or Hitler were psychopaths, but incidentally, neuroscientist James Fallon seems to disagree. It seems that if a person is narcissistic enough they can shift their beliefs in such a way to escape accountability for their actions, even though examining the facts about their actions are misguided (which both Hitler and arguably the Bushs were known to do when examining what preceded the Iraq invasions; though Jr is considered more deplorable.)

Goebbels was just the Edward Bernays of Nazi Germany. The need for people to conform and follow those in power is much as how North Korea maintains influence through cult of personality, and by invoking that influence, people feel empowered through the proxy of the ego, and people gladly follow those in the mistaken belief that they are not on the receiving end by being ostracized by their way of life. Fear keeps people pushing lies (much like Colin Powell did with the anthrax scare, or Donald Rumsfeld, et al.) Similarly, you will find with people like Donald Trump, that people will fall along with the Fuhrer.







An ancient aspect of antiquity rewritten?
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Post by Catoptric » Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:15 am

August 22, 1972, first-time crook "Sonny" John Wortzik, and his friends Salvatore "Sal" Naturile and a person named "Stevie" (a man named Robert Westenberg, who later flees and probably turned on them because the night before they shared a room at a hotel where he was raped by "Sonny" aka John Wojtowicz) rob a Chase Manhattan Bank (originally called First Brooklyn Savings Bank, though it might have just been the name in the movie at 450 Avenue P in Gravesend, Brooklyn) was really about someone robbing a bank to fund a sex change operation. . .


Film
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Day_Afternoon

"Sonny" played by Al Pacino.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wojtowicz

Leon Shermer (the name in the movie, but in real life it's actually Ernest Aron) was to be the "spouse," and when the movie was made it helped fund the transition. They picked the guy up from Bellvue (the mental asylum.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Eden

The other robber didn't make it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Naturile


Article from 1973:
Robber Sentenced In a Holdup to Pay ‘Sex Change’
https://www.nytimes.com/1973/04/24/arch ... hange.html

This guy had interviewed the Salvatore guy for a job prior to his heist.
https://brockelpress.com/2014/09/13/a-b ... on-in-nyc/

A disturbing look at the antihero who inspired ‘Dog Day Afternoon’
https://www.ocregister.com/2014/08/07/a ... afternoon/

‘The Dog’ Review: A Misguided Look at the True Story Behind ‘Dog Day Afternoon’
https://nonfics.com/the-dog-review-a-mi ... 9e334cc22/


'The Dog'' documentary based on the background story (I'm surprised he didn't just remain in jail.) I suspect Al Pacino makes him appear more relatable than the degenerate actually is.
https://tubitv.com/movies/397553/the-dog






Another movie based on homo relations

Heavenly Creatures
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker%E2 ... urder_case


Certain aspects resemble a more recent incident

Did two US teen killers stab their friend to death because she saw them have sex? Victim, 16, 'alluded on Twitter to the lesbian tryst during a sleepover'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... blood.html



Compulsion (1959) was based on Leopold and Loeb though not incentavized by their relation.



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Laemmle Snr and Jnr had a loan used as collateral which upon defaulting, gave the option to purchase Universal Studios for $5.5 million upon failure to repay, and due to Jnr's bungling and risk-taking, they lost the studio just as the movie Show Boat came out.

The High Times and Hard Fall of Carl Laemmle Jr.
https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/the-hi ... lammle-jr/

Some of the most iconic movies were being made up until this time, and everything after by Universal was a botched cash grab with absurd horror flicks. Maybe it was just the nature of rehashing names like Frankenstein, Dracula, Invisible Man, etc, but it was fairly noticeable that they were just applying titles to these various characters and making spinoffs of them (still, I suppose this allowed Dracula to have a son, named Alucard, which likely gave the inspiration for Castlevania SotN.)



Speaking of horror, I was looking up George Reeves home address which isn't far from Carl Laemle Jr's home, and it's supposedly haunted (though I believe he actually killed himself, supposedly he had some major projects he was getting involved in, and may have been a bit of a playboy.) Stories attributed to the wife possibly conspiring to have him killed were being circulated, which might have persisted when she left the home 4 days after and almost never returned to the area (which is pretty typical following incidents of suicide, where people can no longer live in the same home; not for nefarious reasons.)

https://www.hollywood.com/general/georg ... e-57174240

I just copied the article:
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Great Superman’s Ghost!: 1579 Benedict Canyon Drive, Los Angeles
May 28, 2014
Hollywood.com Staff
One of the spookiest stories of a celebrity spectre involves the alleged shade of actor George Reeves, best know to a generation of pre-adolescent Baby Boomers for playing the Man of Steel on TV’s Adventures of Superman throughout the 1950s, and whose dark and mysterious tale was dramatized in the 2006 film Hollywoodland.

Although charming and likeable, Reeves was also naughtier than his clean-cut TV alter ego and enjoyed all the illicit perks of the Hollywood nightlife before being found shot in the head in the bedroom of his modest Benedict Canyon home in 1959. Los Angeles police ultimately ruled Reeves‘ death a suicide and blamed it on his inability to get an acting job playing anything other than the caped super hero.

The cops glossed over the fact that Reeves was launching a renewed career as a TV director, and dodged the fact that the actor’s longtime “sugar mama,” who bought the Benedict Canyon home for him, was insanely jealous after Reeves dumped her for another woman. She was married to a powerful studio “fixer” with connections to both the police and organized crime, who quietly cleaned things up when showbiz types landed in serious trouble. Then there was the lovely young club-hopping socialite Reeves planned to marry who’s account of the night Reeves died had more holes in it than the actor did by the end of the evening.

Whether suicide or murder, all the unanswered questions may have left one very restless spirit in Benedict Canyon. In 1969, a decade after Reeves’ death, rumors circulated about some unusual happenings at the former Superman’s home, but his lover Toni Mannix—who inherited it from her ex-lover and had struggled to keep it rented for years—refused to discuss it. A Los Angeles Times reporter tracked down some ex-tenants, however, and learned the chilling details.

The renters revealed that one night while entertaining guests in the living room, they heard noises. The bedroom—Reeves’ bedroom—previously neat and orderly, was a mess: linens torn off the bed, clothes strewn around. They straightened the room and returned downstairs to find that all the drinks on the coffee tables had been moved to the kitchen. Another time, the couple’s German shepherd barked at the bedroom door furiously, then suddenly cowered and slunk away as the tenants peeked inside and discovered the bed had been moved across the room.

The last straw came around 3 a.m. one summer morning when the apparent ghost of Reeves, dressed in his TV Superman costume, appeared in the living room. Within the hour, the tenants had moved out.

Daily Planet editor Perry White’s oft-quoted exclamation “Great Casesar’s Ghost!” might now be modified, exchanging the Roman emperor for the Last Son of Krypton.
It gets even weirder

https://comicbookhistorians.com/george- ... w-rizzuto/
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