djm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:13 pm
Stop and search figures are higher due to the problem of knife crime in London being far higher in those communities. Most stabbings are carried out amongst members of these communities, and the main beneficiaries of increasing searching are those communities. It is clearly not a racist policy, it is driven by the crime as it should be.
The stats show that if you are specifically black, you are more than 8 times more likely to be stopped and searched (in England and Wales) than if you are white (and British). It is true that the stats do not adjust or apply regression analysis to address factors such as a higher proportion of black people living in London, for example, but it seems difficult to wave away such an observation
entirely as being explainable by some other correlating factor. And whatever that hypothetical factor might be in turn seems to be highly correlated by race, so depending on your specific claim, you would then need to show that that factor is not the result or legacy of systematic racism in the UK.
djm wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:13 pm
As for pay gap, you would expect first-generation immigrant populations to earn less than established populations as people enter on bottom pay scales and have to work up them. This is same in every country and is not evidence of racism structural or otherwise.
The regression analysis in the latter two columns accounts for profession, qualifications, and the third column only includes those born in the UK (i.e., it explicitly excludes the first-generation immigrants you mention, so no language barrier, educated in the UK, etc.). As such, it should be comparing "like with like" in terms of people working in the same profession, with the same qualifications, born in Britain, educated in Britain, etc.
You already noted some minorities earn more than white British, is this racist? If not then why is it evidence of racism the other way around?
In the non-UK-born column, only Irish Whites fare slightly better than British whites. But the UK-born column also adjusts for language barrier, etc., so probably it's the more "reliable". Of the three UK-born minorities faring better than British Whites, we have Irish Whites, White and Asian, and Indian (−2%). There are five ethnicities mentioning Blacks, however. All of the them fare considerably worse (+5-15%) than British whites, whether they come from Africa or the Caribbean.
I don't think that these ethnicity pay gaps are entirely explained or explainable by systematic racism. It is a complex issue with many factors. But when there's a large pay gap after adjusting for occupation, highest qualification level, age, sex, marital status, working pattern, disability status, working in the public or private sector, geography, and whether they have children or not, I think it's not unreasonable to suggest that it is
evidence for systematic, or endemic racism, or the very least the legacy of such.