Run-up to WW3

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Re: Run-up to WW3

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Roger Mexico » Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:07 am

OK so just in the last few days, apparently, Biden and Putin have decided to get into a full-on dick measuring contest over a potential Russian invasion of Ukraine (er, another one, I mean, and officially this time, not with nominally disavowed mercenaries).


I am actually getting a little bit worried now.


https://www.reuters.com/world/britain-s ... 021-12-11/

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Ferrus » Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:46 pm

I believe I predicted thus 7 years ago. Took a bit longer than I was expecting.
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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by puerile_polyp » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:57 am

Last time around Obama talked a lot of shit and then just did nothing when Russia took Crimea. I don't see why it would be any different this time around. Russia will occupy Donbass, people will act outraged, nobody will do anything.

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by HighlyIrregular » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:38 am

"...there will be massive consequences and severe costs in response, and the G7 is absolutely united in that," she said. “The kinds of costs that we are talking about are designed to be implemented very very fast."
I think the G7 knows what it's doing.

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by puerile_polyp » Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:06 am

HighlyIrregular wrote:
Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:38 am
"...there will be massive consequences and severe costs in response, and the G7 is absolutely united in that," she said. “The kinds of costs that we are talking about are designed to be implemented very very fast."
I think the G7 knows what it's doing.
Expert opinions seem to be mixed on whether what the G7 has been doing has hurt them more than Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/08/busi ... raine.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/16/economi ... ussia.html

The sanctions seemed to hurt Russia 2014-2017, but then Russia reduced their dependence on G7 imports and finance and formed stronger ties with China, and now sanctions aren't gonna do much.

So nothing will happen unless USA is willing to invest more and be more aggressive and USA probably is not in a good position to do that right now. They have been bogged down in expensive military boondoggles for decades and just printed triple the currency supply to pay people not to work for a year. If USA invests in Ukraine it's less resources to deal with China shit in the south sea. I don't predict USA will do anything more than symbolic here. Especially because donbas itself is very pro-Russian and doesn't seem to be especially strategically important.

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Catoptric » Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:53 am

Geopolitical interests will increase mineral requirements for economic growth, and often economic reasons are what pivot major wars.



War With China? The Economic Factor That Could Trigger It (article playback option)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/georgecalh ... 5a815f5d26

How carmakers' switch to electric vehicles will strain supply of battery minerals
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/06/ ... -minerals/

And Elon Musk already "joked" that he would create a coup to gather lithium resources in Ecuador.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/elo ... -0010.html

The Dark Side of Electric Cars: Exploitative Labor Practices
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... practices/

A lot of resources are gathered with the full awareness, that the populations around the world are getting exploited to mine or manufacture the materials needed to make companies more profitable.

And part of the problem is that nuclear technology will be necessary to prop up demands for newer technology, which creates other issues (and the US government has a bad habit of using depleted uranium in weapons to sabotage population growth as it did with Iraq or using things like "Agent Orange" in Vietnam, that if any country decides that the US has "overstayed it's welcome" could probably give ZERO FUCKS what it does in response.

I'm thinking the Uyghur/Muslims are the new holocaust, and such a population could also make good slave labor for a secret underground "work camp."
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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Catoptric » Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:21 am

The US military budget has gone up quite a lot in spite of getting out of Afghanistan. . .

Also, proxy wars are clearly a factor in the Middle East, and this just happened:

VIDEO: U.S. Missile System Destroys Iranian Explosive Drones Targeting U.S. Base
https://www.dailywire.com/news/video-u- ... 6mgg3BpnJc

Apparently, the US is still very limited in comparison to Israel's technology though this one did work for this specific moment, mostly because it was within a few miles of the technology deployment and is basically just a machine gun, and Israel's Iron Curtain is a missile technology that has a much greater reach (so unless it was within a short distance from where it's needed, it won't be much use.)

Sometimes China appears to ally with some of these countries and I think the US knows that so they are preparing some initiative.
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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Catoptric » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:55 am

Russia is heading into Ukraine next week?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/puti ... 1644609321

Biden already mentioned the troop should evacuate on fear that any conflict to get them out will lead to WW3.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... -rcna15781

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Re: Run-up to WW3

Post by Madrigal » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:34 pm

Anybody wanna make any predictions on the Ukraine conflict?

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