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Post by Catoptric » Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:04 pm

During the gold rush of California, a Chinese man would wash miners' clothing for free and was thought to be dumb. . . and obviously he knew better than to mine for gold when they were bringing it to him.

https://www.historynet.com/chinese-immi ... -frontier/


Quacks (and quack people still claim to channel the quacks. . .)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Martin_Peebles

February 20, 1970
Biologist Doubts Man's Survival in a World Run by ‘Idiots’ Too Old to Change
https://www.nytimes.com/1970/02/20/arch ... ld-to.html
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Post by Catoptric » Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm

Saint Nicholas was a Turkish necromancer who got kicked out of the Council of Nicaea for slapping another Bishop.

Bishop Nicholas Loses His Cool
https://www.stnicholascenter.org/who-is ... s-his-cool

I should also point out that Jesus was a Necromancer. . .

A likely apocryphal story which is where the Necromancer claim came from:

Saint Nicholas was also murdered by a Butcher.
https://www.stnicholascenter.org/who-is ... -innkeeper

What other tantalizing stories will emerge?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas



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Because Cork was a major port, ships coming from there would be documented in immigration documents, so people confused it (when doinh geneological research) for when people from other parts of Europe would go there for traveling intercontinentally.


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Historic Armenia (the cradle of Indo-European civilization)
https://arevordi.blogspot.com/2011/01/a ... nuary.html






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Caligula ships (destroyed)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemi_ships
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Post by Catoptric » Tue Dec 13, 2022 4:20 am

1857 (and possibly earlier) pants recovered from ship wreck, sold for $144k.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/oldest-pair-of-levis

Levi Strauss may have made them before his patent? People seem to forget how long such pants were being made, and most likely Strauss just patented ideas that were already being done.

His overcoat sold for $500 (est $1000. . .)
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/ ... 8914c30bd8
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The tons of gold was a bit more interesting, estimated to range from 2 tons found, 3 expected, and a rumored 15 might have been secretly carried for an Army shipment.

Seattle group helped find 15 tons of gold lost on sunken ship. It took 30 years to get their shares.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... ost-lives/

"The S.S. Central America sank 7,200 feet deep in the Atlantic Ocean off the North Carolina coast during a hurricane on September 12, 1857. She was on a voyage from Panama to New York carrying tons of California Gold Rush coins, ingots, and gold dust from the San Francisco and Northern California area. The tragedy took the lives of 425 of the ship’s 578 passengers and crewmembers, and the loss of the gold cargo was a major factor in the economically devastating financial Panic of 1857 in the United States."

Also regarding the finding of the gold (much of what was found would amount to $76 million in today's valuation) much of it is not accounted for.

"It took nearly 30 years of litigation and reams of legal documents before a court settlement got them at least a portion of what they were owed. The last of two payments arrived in February."



Also, this photo has been circulating, which has been found among others.
https://www.artfixdaily.com/artwire/rel ... 57%29-will
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Post by Catoptric » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:29 am

The Infamous ‘Beast’ That Ravaged 18th Century France May Have Been Something Else Entirely
https://social.entrepreneur.com/s/infam ... PcCY&bdk=0
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Post by Senseye » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:30 pm

I read your link up to the end of the part about The Beast of Gévaudan. I started to read a bit past that, but quickly realized that this article apparently has no end. After some determined scrolling it does appear to come to an end, god knows how many words later.

I bet you that author terrifies his friends. "Don't get him started" they will say, "he never shuts up.";)

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Post by Catoptric » Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:04 pm

"Immortality potion"
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/m ... ecret-code

Deciphering the Philosophers’ Stone: how we cracked a 400-year-old alchemical cipher
https://www.eait.uq.edu.au/article/2021 ... hers-stone

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The decoded text describes the specific procedures to create the elixir of life. One step alludes to taking an alchemical “egg” from a slow-burning furnace popular with alchemists and known as an athanor. Other steps explain how long to wait for the three universal alchemical phases to occur: black, white, and red. If all the steps are followed correctly, “then you will have a truly gold-making elixir by whose benevolence all the misery of poverty is put to flight and those who suffer from any illness will be restored to health,” the text states.


Empress Wanrong
https://en.claireandjamie.com/view/?id= ... RM&page=24



Historical photos of firefighting in winter conditions, 1880-1980
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/firefi ... al-photos/


Japanese woodblock print of firefighters (who would soak their outfit in water in an attempt to stay protected.)
https://www.artelino.com/show/japanese_ ... ?mbk=21515

More Japanese Firemen images
https://www.artelino.com/articles/edo_firemen.asp
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Re: Historical Fragments

Post by Yesterday » Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:34 pm

Catoptric wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm
I should also point out that Jesus was a Necromancer. . .
How was Jesus a necromancer?
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Post by Catoptric » Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:16 pm

Yesterday wrote:
Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:34 pm
Catoptric wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:51 pm
I should also point out that Jesus was a Necromancer. . .
How was Jesus a necromancer?
Jesus was accused by the Romans as being a magician (or "conjuror of tricks,") and part of his claimed miracles would have been necromancy (which the Old Testament forbids on numerous occassions) of Lazarus. The Sanhedrin seems to reference his own claim to being the son of God as being sacriligeous, but it was a number of things he did that were considered contradictory to the Talmud teachings or beliefs.





This article mentions Herod and John the Baptist, though historically, Herod would have died before Jesus' claimed birth year.

https://www.debunking-christianity.com/ ... y.html?m=1
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Post by Catoptric » Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:13 pm

I can't but help think of the Tsars of Russia with their over-the-top extravagance leading to unpopularity (which for Tsar Nicholas II it followed after an unfavorable war) when reading about Germany's Ludvig II.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II ... aria#Death

https://en.schwangau.de/sightseeing/kin ... f-bavaria/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle



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NYC 1945 street footage
https://fb.watch/hJJBL8dYed/?mibextid=NnVzG8


235-year old farm house untouched in Manhattan
https://dyckmanfarmhouse.org/event/re-i ... se-museum/

Or the click-bait version. . .
https://hermoments.com/s/farmhouse-in-m ... naxs&bdk=0


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Inca mummies
http://captaintarekdreams.blogspot.com/ ... h.html?m=1


Tartary / Tartaria — The Mystery of an Empire Lost in History
https://medium.com/history-of-yesterday ... 9abb5cc9b6


Technically a conure, not a parakeet


These are mentioned (these are the same as the Quaker Parakeet) and I've seen them in Dallas.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/parak ... -594040700


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Inventor of first practical internal combustion engine is largely unknown
https://www.freightwaves.com/news/freig ... ly-unknown

Only the original engine seems to survive as an example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tie ... oir_engine

Scale model of Lenoir's gas car from 1860.
https://art.rmngp.fr/fr/library/artwork ... tiere_1944

The Surprising History of Hydrogen Vehicles
https://www.fastechus.com/blog/the-surp ... n-vehicles

Hippomobiles ("horse-drawn") Horseless carriage, was adapted to hydrogen electrolysis, though perhaps seen as being not much different from steam power performance?


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Speaking of hippomobiles. . .

15 Best Oklahoma State Fair Photos of all Time
https://thelostogle.com/2013/09/12/15-b ... f-all-time



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Chaco Indian culture ruins (Pueblo people, misattributed to Aztecs) in New Mexico, abandoned 1,000 years ago

New Mexico: Aztec Ruins National Monument
https://www.nps.gov/articles/aztec.htm

https://goo.gl/maps/R6LjmUGr2xzRYuDM8

Some of the structures have the original in-tact roofs. . .

The Pueblo (AKA Anasazi) had some pretty fascinating ruins.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pueblo+ ... s-wiz-serp

‘Vanished' people may live on in the U.S. Southwest
https://www.science.org/content/article ... -southwest

Megadrought meant that ancient beans were stored away for safe keeping never to be used, while they had to abandon their structures.

You can buy the same heirloom crop of Anasazi beans which were from the 900+ year old settlements.


Of course, you could just as well pick up some pinto beans. . . Though the difference in how much "gas power" you get from pinto is as much as 75%, and Anasazi beans generally seem more desirable.
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Post by Catoptric » Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:00 pm

Pompeii surgical instruments (best preserved)
https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/7763 ... st-century

(Domus del Chirurgo or House of the Surgeon in Rimini)
Largest Collection Of Ancient Surgical Tools Was Found Here, Not At Pompeii
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinaki ... 155b3317f7



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prehistoric cave (Les Combarelles)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Combarelles

I had to find out what this was referring to (The Baron of Combrelles (Part 1))


I hadn't seen the guy's presence (the last time it was on Myspace where his photos of his family seemed a bit uneasy) online in over a decade (I randomly came across his Amazon reviews when looking at a Star Wars movie collection.) He is a bit of an oddball. . .

Here is a glimpse at what this guy does:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jacques-Coulardeau

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The Freemasons would use a cipher, which is not unlike early Christians during the ancient Roman empire (they would communicate using code when it was considered outlawed by Rome.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher


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Ancient fish hybrid
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturddl ... 0in%202020.


Snake Oil Salesmen Were on to Something
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... something/



The one bodyguard assigned to Ford’s Theater to protect President Lincoln abandoned his post for a drink on the night of the assassination–and wasn’t fired for it
https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/04/ ... bodyguard/

The Star Saloon that the guard visited during intermission also had John Wilkes Booth show up, where he then proceeded to Lincoln's booth where he had earlier readied to carry out his plan to assassinate him. (more backstory is on the photo page)


I've been trying to find more info on the bar which is still named Star Saloon though is permanently closed.
https://goo.gl/maps/qqMqwR9RTn1nDAFC7

The backstory is that it was closed permanently after his assassination:
https://theclio.com/entry/24524


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The Cursed Grave Of Seath Mor
https://mymacabreroadtrip.com/the-curse ... seath-mor/

Written on his gravestone is a tribute to the man who was ‘Victor in the Combat at Perth in 1396’, the only man to survive the Battle of The Clans. Seath himself would not pass away until 1405.

I was looking into this as well, and apparently, the "homing stones" mean the same thing as honing. I was wondering if it had a similar tradition to Scandinavian cairns (rock mounds that are intended to point out landscape markers) to help identify the grave? Maybe these were the stones used to create headstones for the various clans' people that died in the battle, and as a way of showing respect, the tools that were used were placed on his grave?

Often graves would get easily lost over time, though it does seem fairly unique for any grave monument, and this might have been the result over time of people messing with the grave site, so it would be interesting to know the origins of when it was left there (kind of like the iron grate was a fairly recent addition.) Evidently, the grate gets removed periodically for cleaning since I've seen photos of grass growing through the grates, and the stones would gradually sink down over time.

Supposedly those stones have some kind of occult reference to a Gaelic guardian spirit called the Bordach an Duin. Anyone who molests the "homing stones" are terrorized or killed by a Bodach?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodach



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November 1878, a polar bear brought back by Arctic whalers escaped into the streets of Dundee.
https://oldweirdscotland.com/dedicated- ... f-fashion/


Recently Dallas Zoo had a Snow Leopard escape, though was recovered. It might have been like a 20-30 lb regular cat.


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Mihailo Tolotos lived 82 years without contact with a woman.
https://www.vintag.es/2022/12/mihailo-tolotos.html?m=1

The ultimate incel?


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A Belgium festival (which would influence the tradition of Mardi Gras, since it occurs on the same day) that revolted against Napoleonic laws which forbade masks, was likely an inspiration for V for Vendetta?

Carnival of Binche
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Binche
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles

I had to find out the actual festival reference because looking up Gilles (which are based on some kind of Belgium Folklore, though seems to be a direct mocking of a Belgian bourgois/nobility who opposed it) didn't make it very clear. Though the Gilles are popular in this festival, they seem to embrace a more medieval influence.

More info:
https://theculturetrip.com/europe/belgi ... ardi-gras/




The willow twigs (faggot bundle. . .) is probably a symbol of fertility or new life, and they would throw the bundles at people in the crowd.
https://tree2mydoor.com/pages/informati ... -symbolism


I'm actually wondering if a person started the tradition that might have been a popular performer?

Pierrot formerly known as Gilles
https://www.artble.com/artists/antoine_ ... _as_gilles

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The subject of Pierrot (meaning an actor, masquerader, or buffoon) is unclear. It may have been a theatrical sign for a café or it could have been a sign for a fairground show.

Generally the character of Pierrot in the Commedia dell'Arte was staged to be the fool. Watteau's sad clown has reason to be sad as he may be destined for a broken heart. Traditionally, the Pierrot's love interest, Columbine, leaves him for Harlequin. Despite his fate, the character of Pierrot is trusting and proves to be naïve, moonstruck and distant to reality.

If you actually think about it, the resemblance of the Gilles in the festival looks uncannily like the armor that was gifted to King Henry VIII by the Holy Roman Emperor? The outfit that the Gilles wear is very much of that time period, and it doesn't specify when the Gilles first showed up in the parade, though the tradition of the parade started in the 14th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_he ... Henry_VIII

Better photo
https://collections.royalarmouries.org/ ... bject-2623

Wikipedia claims it shows similar likeness to a playing card character, referred to as Schellenunter or Knave/fool of Bells.

Similarly, their might have been other influences?


I suspect he might have just commissioned it from Emperor Maximilians Armorer since it appears as though Henry might have actually worn it in jest, though it does make me wonder if such a gift would have made him turn against the Pope's authority (though still remaining a Catholic until the end of his life.)


Speaking of historical masks:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-10/ ... e/12644446

Shaming masks (I can see A LOT OF similarities to the Henry VIII helmet, and reading the comments it seems some of these were actually used in tournaments and not for shaming?)
https://cvltnation.com/know-your-place- ... ame-masks/

Face Masks – A Nightmarish Challenge? (personae and ego projection)
https://www.medieval.eu/face-masks-a-ni ... challenge/




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In 1928, a massive carcass of a sperm whale washed ashore in Wrightsville Beach — and that was just the beginning of the trouble.
https://www.ourstate.com/back-in-the-da ... of-a-tale/
https://www.intracoastalrealty.com/blog ... lle-beach/
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I was looking at a list of states with the most abandoned homes, and apparently Wrightsville Beach was one of them. . . Summary: too much sperm (whale)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 ... 0Solutions.




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Here’s what being filthy rich in Europe looked like in 1000 BC, 1 AD, and 1000 AD
https://bigthink.com/the-past/wealth-history-inequality


"Archaeological excavations suggest that primitive hunter-gatherer groups were more egalitarian than the complex civilizations that emerged after the agricultural revolution. Focusing on the Near East, researchers from Durham University found that societies became increasingly unequal as they transitioned from the Neolithic period into the Iron Age, between 1200 and 900 BC."

The vast majority of human progress is measured by the extent to which we bullshit ourselves with material possessions, enough to justify the enslavement of others who would go along willfully to justify "identity."

Rather than offer up something like a sword to someone, people bury it with the dead, or bury a boat, or construct a terracotta army (or kill people to bury them as an offering.) And whenever a human sacrifice was offered it was always of the downtrodden.



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Oregon lost world’s biggest log cabin in spectacular 1964 fire
http://www.offbeatoregon.com/1206c-fore ... urned.html

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/world- ... -portland/


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Marajoara culture (Estuary Island ancient culture which lived from 900AD-1400AD) the inspiration for Zelda Majora's Mask.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marajoara_culture

I was looking for historic photos (such as the swim mask which reminded me of the "mask guy."
https://www.vintag.es/2014/03/full-face ... -1928.html
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